Discuss: Valentine’s Day Massacre

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11 What's wrong with the web is that it's being run b

“The problem with the web, as it is today, is not only that it’s too much of a democracy, but that it’s a very corrupted one. There are a very small number of leaders, who represent the so-called majority of the web citizens. But those are not the citizens who consume the web, but the citizens who make it. In other words, you will be led by the search engines, according to the preferences of website owners, not according to the preferences of website users like you!”

posted at 09:36 am on February 14, 2006 by CoMagz founder

12 UTF-8 standard url encoding..

Mostly everything has been said right now, but I really hate another thing: standard UTF-8 url encoding.

Try passing some standard iso 5589-1 text through it in an AJAX context (try french, with é‘s, ç‘s and ê‘s); even multipart can’t do it right. You just have to hack your way through it…(good ‘ol UTF8-decode)

It would be so gracious, nice latin-1 url’s, no & frustrations anymore… what a nice web it would be (besides everything else).

posted at 10:41 am on February 14, 2006 by Pieterjan Montens

13 The people I'd like to see shot

Microsoft, for IE6 (being an utter and unmitigated abomination), IE7 (for being much too little, much too late) and Frontpage (produces some of the ugliest sites on the web)
Cyber-squatters, who register every possible domain out there – making it difficult for legitimate web authors, and ruining the auto-suffix features of Opera and Lynx
Web deezyners who use Flash for no good reason, with no backup
Illiterate web authors who can’t write coherent English (or whatever their native language is)
People who build CMS with non-human-parseable URLs and no visible site structure
People who build inaccessible sites that only work with their version of IE and all the latest plug-ins

Link farms, especially those that appear in Google above genuine websites

posted at 10:49 am on February 14, 2006 by Stephen Down

14 So many things

There are sooooo many things wrong with the web. Cross browser compatibility issues has to be at the top of my list though. I hate spending a ton of time working on a website just to have to go back and rewrite portions of the CSS for another browser. It almost makes me want to go back to tables, but no, CSS is the language that keeps on giving.

I also hate the use of buzzwords. They’re fine if you mentiont hem once in a while, but when an article about a barney fan club site uses the term “web 2.0” 20 times it just seems plain ridiculous.

posted at 11:08 am on February 14, 2006 by Kevin S.

15 What annoys me

“[…] my design will probably still have issues with Opera or IE5.x for Mac for those 8 people out there still using it.�?

First of all, I’m sick and tired of people addressing the Opera browser as a browser full of bugs, a browser that’s difficult to design for. I hate that more than anything. It’s false. It’s wrong. It’s a lie!

Secondly, I hate Firefox. No, as a matter of fact, I hate Firefox’s users. All of them. All of the “Firefox is so fast and so standards compliant and so secure and so great.�? Rant, rant, lie, rant. Firefox isn’t a great browser, it’s a a great marketing campaign.

Lastly, but not least, I hate the fact that instead of spending the day of love with my girlfriend, as it should be, I’m stuck here whining about Opera, Firefox, hate and love. I hate it!

posted at 11:43 am on February 14, 2006 by Hein Tore Tønnesen

16 I FIND ANNOYING

“web designers” that are stuck in the past and refuse to learn CSS for layout (Steve I’m looking at you ;) )
spam/adverts/etc – adblock in Firefox has curbed most of the adverts though, it’s the most useful plugin ever
having to hack sites for different browsers

the fact that so many people believe everything they read on the web instead of going further and researching more about a subject

posted at 11:56 am on February 14, 2006 by Paul Solecki

17 I find annoying

People continually going on about how this and that is wrong with the web.

Are you sure you really hate IE7 or AJAX already or is it because “experts” in the field have told you that you should.

posted at 12:09 pm on February 14, 2006 by james young

18 .NET 2.0 Affordable?

Hmm.. I just set up a web server with linux, lighttpd, mysql, pgsql, and serveral server-side languages. Total out of pocket cost to MS $0.00.

—R

posted at 12:18 pm on February 14, 2006 by Randall Potter

19 IE needs to Die

Why don’t we all just stop supporting MSIE? People keep using this trashy antique browser because things are bodged to work in it. Perhaps we should just develop for Firefox and let all the other browsers catch up when they realise that everyone is moving to Firefox.

Why on earth does Safari exist? What a terrible pain! Bin it and use Firefox then at least that’s one less browser we have to worry about. Same for Konqueror – nice try, but let’s face it, pants compared to Firefox. Bin Konqueror too!

As for the bloke on the main page who wrote about .Net being great, oh dear god what has that man been taking? He might as well say “All my sites look great in MSIE running on Windows!” and leave it at that. The day Microsoft make something that adheres to open standards, I’ll show my ass in Burton’s window!

Opera, although now free, is still waaaay behind Firefox. They seriously need to pull their finger out and sort all the layout glitches, CSS problems and other painful traits their browser currently has.

Oh, and just one more thing…

STOP DEVELOPING SITES FOR MSIE AND PEOPLE WILL MOVE TO FIREFOX

Did I say that already? Well, it’s such an important point I thought it needed to be stated twice. How many of your clients have you converted to Firefox today? None? You’re in the wrong job mate. Show them the light and find out how refreshing it is to get projects finished on time and on budget.

posted at 12:28 pm on February 14, 2006 by Guy Fraser

20 IE, Tables and Stubborn Old School "designers"

Most people on this discussion say they hate IE6.. I do too…IE7 will solve some problems and simply create more…I find myself quite frustrated with educating people about the importance of clean CSS based designs with a sense of fluidity to them…I detest table based layouts…and finally I simply cannot stand a “designer” who lacks openness when it comes to web site design and creation…The web is for people who belong to a new age and people with stuck up ideas, like it has always been with the computer sciences, make it harder for others by not adopting newer standards by staying rooted to the older methods of doing things

posted at 12:58 pm on February 14, 2006 by Bharat Mody