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1 All My Questions in One Tutorial

Wow! I have had so many questions regarding XML and how it should be effectively used. This “tutorial” answered most of my questions right off. Zeldman would have me believe that the next tutorial was weeks away when it would be unveiled the next day. What a pleasant surprise. My thanks to you.

posted at 01:23 am on July 19, 2002 by codeman

2 A CSS error in the fancy version

Kinda thought this is not allowed: style=“background-color:green; width:5”>
Values cannot stand alone in CSS, do they? So it should say 5px, 5% or something.

posted at 02:18 am on July 19, 2002 by Oliver

3 Re: A CSS error in the fancy version

Nope, the units must be specified. IE in quirks mode automatically assumes you want px, and I suspect other programs do so as well.

posted at 02:59 am on July 19, 2002 by Jan!

4 Getting data in

Nice article thanks.

One question, is there an app which takes an XML file and allows for flexible and easy data entry? There is no chance in hell I can get our salesteam or non-techy guys to use Notepad to enter data into the XML file. Sure I could go and write ASP apps for each XML file, but that is a chore. And it seems to me as if XML is quite a qood language to support a flexible generic data-entry app.

posted at 04:12 am on July 19, 2002 by Paul Watson

5 Deja Vu

Scary case of deja vu here. The new work website that (finally) went on line uses very simliar techniques, xml articles that are transformed by xslt stylesheets (depending on the viewers browser) to produce the output. Reading this reminded me of the fun I had making the system.
One really good reason I found for self specified makup was it stops people thinking “h1 looks like this” and instead makes them think about the structure.

posted at 04:49 am on July 19, 2002 by Simon

6 thank god for clarity

just been reading loads of stuff about XML / XSL / XSLT / XPATH, this is the clearest and most enjoyable article(yes i used the E word) i have read yet. trust the guys @ alistapart to get the goods. now i just have to learn it….

posted at 04:57 am on July 19, 2002 by burtware

7 Broken links.

Nice article, unfortunately the setup instructions for batik don’t lead anywhere!

Overall though a well written introduction to the power of XML and XSLT.

posted at 06:00 am on July 19, 2002 by Ben

8 re: "getting data in"

Paul:
You want XML-Spy (not just for your salesteam).

http://www.xmlspy.com/

posted at 06:45 am on July 19, 2002 by Dragan

9 CSS can display attribute values

Use something like:

serving:after { content: attr(units)
}

This technique can be especially helpful for, for example, printable stylesheets, where link URI’s, image titles, acronym defenitions and so on can be displayed, ala:

@media print { acronym:after { content: “ (” attr(title) “)” }
}

Failing adding this, Mr Eisenberg should at least close the brackets where he says CSS can’t do this ;)

posted at 07:21 am on July 19, 2002 by Freaky

10 Outstanding!

Mr. Eisenberg, you’ve done a great thing here!

I’ve a number of friends I’ve been trying to turn on to XML, and I’ve had some grey areas myself.

While you gave the executive summary on technical details, you have given enough information to really dig in.

On the positive side, you have demonstrated a large number of great XML facets in a practical manner.

Thanks for the excellent article! I’ll be sending my friends to read it. :)

posted at 07:35 am on July 19, 2002 by Jeremy Dunck

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