Discuss: In Search of the Holy Grail
by Matthew Levine
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222 Tables, css, and the wheel
This is a great article and something that has enabled me to get my menu working in ie6 (see [url=“http://www.weeteevee.com“target=”_blank” ]weeteevee’s site[/url]).
Up to last night I just used a standard 3 div left/middle/right layout. When I put the menu into the left pane it refused to work in ie6. I cried, I wept, I discovered that if the menu div is in the content after the div that it will be layered over when expanded then the menu will work. So I remembered bookmarking this in delicious and here I am and there is works (I’ve applied the disappearing left column fix and am ploughing through the rest of the posts.
However, I have got to say, the amount of grief that is involved with all of this when we have the simplicity of tables at our disposal is enough to make me want to scream. Afterall did people drop their bicycles while cars were being perfected? No they did not. Css / standardisation is a long way off and realistically at a basic layout level tables do everything you need without the fuss or 23 pages of forum responses.
Thanks for the article, and as message to the haters….keep whining it serves as a reason to go make more tea.
posted at 05:40 am on November 9, 2006 by james williams
223 and finally
The holy grail, much like all complex css based sites does not work. The left hand column behaves like a ginger kid at a playground and spends most of its time off the screen. In the end I had to float the center 3 panes and remove their position: relative in order for the vertical flyout menu to work correctly. Basing a whole industry on something this complex and broken (css) is insane. We should all be rethinking our use of css.
posted at 08:19 pm on November 9, 2006 by james williams
224 Broken in Internet Explorer 6
Many months ago I was looking for a multi-column CSS approach and found this article. I implemented it in one of my personal sites but I have noticed that while it displays almost fine in Firefox 2.0 it doesn´t do well in IE6.
In IE6 the three column layout is kind of broken, the left and right columns show fine. But the middle column instead is flushed down so that the top side is not aligned with the top of the other two columns.
Can anybody tell me whether this was intended and perhaps what is wrong with it?
posted at 05:02 pm on November 20, 2006 by Didimo Grimaldo
225 Untitled
that means you havent followed the instructions correctly. I would suspect you have put a margin on it, or maybe i removed a margin to get mine to work.
posted at 12:33 pm on November 28, 2006 by james williams
226 netscape 8.12 issues
Has anyone got this layout working in netscape 8.12? not my browser of choice, but I’m just curious…
I seem to be having problems with the page extending way beyond the actual content (especially evident when you re-size the browser window to approx 800×600 or less). Also, I have noticed that occasionally the copy in the left/right columns cuts off when it reaches the footer – ideas anyone?
Many thanks!
posted at 04:17 pm on November 30, 2006 by vikki neal
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221 IE7 Fix - The Link
Sorry, I was expecting the URL to render automatically…
Here’s the click-friendly IE7 Fix for Holy Grail :-)
posted at 01:42 am on November 8, 2006 by Gerd Riesselmann