11 Tidy?

I’m happy to see the new forums coming up!

I’m curious… HTML Tidy is supposed to be able to convert lots of messy tag-soup pages to XHTML. It seems to work pretty well on my hand-coded and occasionally Perl-generated pages (I use the BBEdit plug-in, which is a lovely thing). Is it any good at dealing with Dreamweaver output?

posted at 07:59 pm on April 9, 2002 by Matt McIrvin

12 Forums Up!

I am also glad to see the forums up. Since I first began reading ALA the forums have always been down. I can’t wait until they are all up and running.

posted at 11:15 pm on April 9, 2002 by

13 Dreamweaver class...

wow, this is really cool… I didn’t know I could change the default start up… that will save me a few steps when I start a new site…

I still need to get better with stylesheets, as I still use the body tag for a lot of text formatting (im sorry!)

But now, Im having a problem in my dreamweaver class… the teacher wants us to make a site, but he doesn’t know anything about webstandards… guess what? my site doesn’t work on his Netscape 4.01! How can I convince a University Professor that his class is out of date and he needs to teach standards? Hell, my GTF had never even heard of web standards! grrr. btw, thanks for the forums again!

posted at 01:29 am on April 10, 2002 by Scott Saunders

14 Any fixes for GoLive?

I must confess that I have not applied these fixes, as I am still a ‘hand-coder’. Homesite 2.5 for me, baby! I have always found using DreamWeaver a slower process for me, as I always have to correct things afterwards. Still it’s worth a go.

Anyway, my question is about GoLive. I am evaluating version 6 – have never used GL before at all. Looks quite interesting/powerful, while not immediately intuitive. There is an option to output as XHTML but that output does not pass validation.

If anyone has any ideas about how to improve compliance in GL6, please e-mail me direct on this.

[Deferential bow to the waferbaby for giving Mr Z a helping hand]

posted at 01:46 am on April 10, 2002 by Ian Lloyd

15 Re: Conversion Bug in DW4 for Mac

Dan, that linebreak problem seems to happen only on the Mac. (You may have followed the discussion [url=“http://www.fjordaan.uklinux.net/moveabletype/fblog/archives/000054.html#000054”]here[/url].) Unfortunately, no fix yet.

posted at 02:23 am on April 10, 2002 by francois

16 Not ready but very willing

I have been using Homesite for a few years now and Dreamweaver before that. I was willing to go and try these tips but having read about Dreamweaver MX Im not too sure now.

Can someone please give me a good reason why I should bother to use Dreamweaver over Homesite ? ? I ask out of a willingness to change but a lack of knowledge as to why…

posted at 02:50 am on April 10, 2002 by Ian Burrett

17 Bah, use Editplus

Use Editplus, you can code however you want then.

posted at 06:03 am on April 10, 2002 by rgw

18 Speaking of standards

Speaking of standards, it looks to me like the forum software written by Waferbaby validates… http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.alistapart.com/stories/dreamweaver/discuss/ and http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.alistapart.com/stories/dreamweaver/discuss/
Not that I expected any less. My question is: What did you use to write this in? It seems extremely fast and responsive, even as the number of posts per page has increased? Any info you could give would be extremely appreciated.

Jason

posted at 07:29 am on April 10, 2002 by Jason

19 Good job waferbaby and co!

“Is there another designers’ forum/community anywhere?” asked by Johannah.

Just launched is http://www.stereotypography.com, with nice forums. Just how much of it will be actual design talk remains to be seen, I fear a lot of it could just be making nice images rather than designing sites etc. Although that’s fine with me :)

I think pixelsugeon also has a forum? Not sure, not really into it that much (please don’t kill me!).

I started to modify DW to write valid code but stopped when I realised that

a. I can write better code myself
b. It would take too long.

Dreamweaver is great for some things, more abstract functions like changing links sitewide and quickly sticking flash and bits and bobs into sites, but as far as I’m concerned, the unrivalled freedom of a text editor like Notepad or JEXT is fantastic.

posted at 07:44 am on April 10, 2002 by Spike

20 Partly off topic in response to Scott Saunders

“How can I convince a University Professor that his class is out of date and he needs to teach standards? Hell, my GTF had never even heard of web standards! grrr. btw, thanks for the forums again!”

Ask him why he uses Netscape 4.01, then give him a CD with a slightly more up to date browser on it (ie a w3c compat one). Mention to him that evolt keeps such archaic relics so he doesn’t have to fill his hard-drive with antiques, and then go forth and show him the wonders of properly implimented web-standards CSS design :)

posted at 07:49 am on April 10, 2002 by Spike