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Discuss: Cross-Column Pull-Out Part Two: Custom Silhouettes

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1 The bear dances at all.

Daniel,

I have to applaud your solution to approximate a print-based cross-column layout in validating CSS and (X)HTML, but if we’re going to be adding all of those extra spans, counting pixels, and fussing over the layout I don’t see how this is easier or faster to implement than the old days of creating a table-in-table column layout and slicing up the image.

posted at 07:50 am on January 11, 2005 by Jough

2 Here here...

While it is a great technique I have to agree with Jough on this one. I thought the whole point of standards/semantics was that we were moving away from the tag soup and trying to use the minimal mark-up necessary?

posted at 07:57 am on January 11, 2005 by Andyk

3 Javscript?

Yo!

To echo the statement of the others, the technique is interesting. I’d auggest though, that the spans, that offset the image, shuold realy be done via Javascript, it’s perfect for this kind of job.

- Kevin

posted at 09:01 am on January 11, 2005 by Kevin Cannon

4 Readability

I haven’t read all the comments in the ‘Part One’ discussion, but I’m sure someone would have touched on the readibility aspect of this approach. It’s annoying on my eyes to have to read across different line lengths, so I don’t find much worth in sacrificing readibility to embed a picture which could be placed anywhere really.

BUT having said that, there are definately cases in which this technique could be useful and if used in moderation along with a neat design. Thanks for your efforts.

posted at 09:05 am on January 11, 2005 by coda

5 The Web Is Not Print

nt

posted at 10:32 am on January 11, 2005 by Greg

6 I'm sorry, but it's been done a long time before.

http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/slantastic/demo.html

I’m sorry I had to dig that up.

posted at 12:06 pm on January 11, 2005 by Stefan

7 I don't see any practical use

I don’t know why someone would like to use this technique.

posted at 12:31 pm on January 11, 2005 by Edgard Durand

8 Edgy stuff

I don’t care if it requires as much markup as a table solution or if it’s a bit of tag soup, or if it could be better handled with JavaScript, or if the surrounding text is difficult to read.

I think it’s a creative bit of work… practical or no (time will tell). Thanks for your efforts Daniel 8 )

posted at 01:46 pm on January 11, 2005 by Ray

9 In the spirit of ALA

One more thought (see message title)

posted at 01:47 pm on January 11, 2005 by Ray

10 Dude!

What happened to ALA!!! No offense to the author, because I do respect the amount of effort it takes to impliment something like this, but that’s just my point. What happened to elegance? As of late there have just been a lot of overly complicated techniques or even worse; javascript hacks!

I don’t know what it takes to become a contributor to ALA, but I’ve consistently found that people’s replies in the forums are either more useful than the articles, debunk what the article was proving, or provide far better solutions! Yee gads!

posted at 01:49 pm on January 11, 2005 by Ryan

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